>> it could be or florida. as i said, you have to go from florida and virginia to of before you get to ohio. and so, maybe we'll have a weird mess-up in virginia. i've been looking at the florida results and i have to say just looking at what's rolling in-- they have some things rolling in-- it looks a little better for romney than i would have thought. he's up a little. they haven't reported the panhandle which is where he's going to do very well. if you lookt numbers coming in there that looks okay for romney. >> ifill: he has to win florida. >> and i think he has to win virginia just to get to ohio. >> virginia is a fascinating state. john mccain got 8,000 vote more than george bush did four years earlier this 2008. george bush carried it twice, and republicans carried it in the 10 preceding april prtial elects, all the way back to lyndon johnson. but president obama got 505,000 more votes than john kerry. cathy was talking about hampton roads. that's where he ran it up. and in northern virginia, in the subu